| BE&I | 2005-07-10 23:59:00 |
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Stem Cells
| Isles2001 | 2005-07-11 01:31:00 |
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He's a DEMON!!! Everyone knew it'd happen. Now there's hope people can see that bio-gathered, NON-fetal stem cells can be used to help humanity. Right from the discarded after-birth tissue snipped from the womb. We know 1-5% of what medicine and treatments could be, I'd say. You know the proteins found in your umbilical cord contain antigens and disease fighting mechanisms that keep a baby safe from varying maladies the mother has (reportedly AIDS, in some reports, as well). [quote]Why Should I Preserve My Baby's Cord Blood? During pregnancy, the umbilical cord is the lifeline between mother and baby. Once the umbilical cord is discarded after your baby's birth, you lose the chance to preserve the precious stem cells it contains that are an exact match for your child. By preserving your baby's stem cells, he or she will have a guaranteed source of perfectly matched cells in the event a life threatening illness develops and the cells need to be used to combat the disease.[/quote [quote]What Diseases Can Be Treated/Cured Through The Transplantation Of Stem Cells? Stem cells are used today in the treatment of leukemia, breast cancer, lymphoma, Hodgkin's Disease, Aplastic Anemia, Sickle Cell Anemia, various other cancers, blood diseases, hereditary/genetic conditions and immune system disorders. There are approximately 1.4 million new cancer cases each year. As stem cell transplants become routine, they may be used to fight lung cancer, Multiple Sclerosis, Lupus, AIDS and many other genetic diseases. [/quote] Very interesting......of course, mine was probably being ripped apart by Mineola rats the day after, but to think of what could be if future infants have theirs stored, the complete access to stem cell reparations or antibodies or cures......mind boggling. And if the doctor screws up, we'll have something to beat him with. |
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| B.P. | 2005-07-11 07:51:00 |
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He's a DEMON!!! Everyone knew it'd happen. Now there's hope people can see that bio-gathered, NON-fetal stem cells can be used to help humanity. Right from the discarded after-birth tissue snipped from the womb. Very interesting......of course, mine was probably being ripped apart by Mineola rats the day after, but to think of what could be if future infants have theirs stored, the complete access to stem cell reparations or antibodies or cures......mind boggling. And if the doctor screws up, we'll have something to beat him with. [right][snapback]73536[/snapback][/right] Mineola rats! I'd hate to think what at mine, I was born in Franklin General. Probably better off going to the local VET than going to Franklin...UGH. Anyway, yes stem cells are so important to medical research. This was one area that I would get very upset with the President on because I felt he was bowing to the religious right. But from this story it would seem that non fetal stem cells are just as useful. That is why we had our sons gathered and out into cryo. So it would be there for him if GOD FORBID anything happened. A note to anybody who is thinking about saving the cord blood for thier children. BE CAREFUL what place you chose. There are many horror stories where people chose a place that basically puts your babies blood into a "pool" so to speak. It is available to all and to researchers. Some who have needed to make use of it have found that it simply isn't there. We made sure our place reserves it for our child alone, and the price was very reasonable. |
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| ScottNYI | 2005-07-11 11:01:00 |
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Mineola rats! |
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| Dan-o16 | 2005-07-11 00:36:00 |
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Stem cells from umbilical cords are somewhat differentiated generators of blood cells. They aren't pure precursors, like embryonic stem cells are. If they are all they are cracked up to be, they sound great for therapy (their being somewhat differentiated cuts down on complications and risks in therapy). However, for the lab, there's no substitute for the more (most) plastic variety. I can't understand, however, how this gets one out of an ethical quandary. If umbilical blood could (although it is unlikely) provide the ability for reproductive cloning, there should be just as much a barrier against them. And after all, aborted fetuses, just like umbilical blood, merely get discarded. So, there seems to be little difference in that regard either. Perhaps this is more grist for the anti-abortionist's mill? Maybe, but nobody honestly thinks that people have abortions in order to harvest stem cells. So, I can't see how the argument is meant to go. Cheers, Dan-o |
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| OKC Fan | 2005-07-12 00:43:00 |
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I hope that I'm wrong, but I'm not so sure that I believe this one. I'm not a neurologist (or a health-care professional of any kind) but I have to think that 19 years of non-use and associated degeneration would make this unlikely. |
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| beezer | 2005-07-12 13:06:00 |
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I am no neurologist either, but I would assume that if the point of damage to the spine were to be re-cut and upon the begining of recovery to the new cut the stem cells are introduced they could work in the creation of new cells. You know the proteins found in your umbilical cord contain antigens and disease fighting mechanisms that keep a baby safe from varying maladies the mother has (reportedly AIDS, in some reports, as well). I always thought the thing with babies being born with AIDs then losing it is because they are protected by the Mothers imunities for 6 months until they basically flush out and start with their own. Now if you can figure out how to get this flushing out thing to happen at will, then you have the money maker, and remember I told you to do it when the cash comes in. |
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| cj13 | 2005-07-13 11:57:00 |
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Some of the many reasons I plucked down 3500$(ouch) to save the THREE yes THREE umbilical cords on their way to my house sometime around the holidays or the new year... Isles season tix's or umbilical cords???? Sorry buy I'm secertly hoping to get that first chunk back to pay for the retreival.. Plus $360ish a year for a long time.. Hopefully they'll always stay frozen and I'll never know if they would have helped b/c WE wont need them... Someone enlighten me on why we can't then "harvest" umbilical cord blood loaded with embryionic stem cells. You know pay the bill and take half the return for science. If the company doing my procedure is on target they can possibly squeeze out between 20-1000 individual vials of cells or doses depending of certain factors. Over 2,000,000 births a year and we have an endless supply of cells and NO life gets ended for their harvesting. |
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| Isleschick | 2006-01-02 19:51:00 |
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Ignoring President Bush's veto threat, the House voted Tuesday to lift limits on embryonic stem cell research. |
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| bushvader | 2006-01-03 07:40:00 |
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its kinda funny to me how this country is going. bush is saying how we can't use the embryos from fertilization clinics for stem cell research. so now are we not going to be able to discard these embryos? what are we going to have to do, hold onto to them and use them on other women? jeez, it just doesn't make a damn bit of sense. this is so damn different from even an aborted fetus, this is an embryo which really has no shot at ever living. you have to make multiple embryos because it is so difficult to have an embryo implant into the uterus after being introduced. i always thought this was a kinda funny story, and i'm pretty disturbed by the fact that this doesn't seem so unlikely anymore. there's a type of "pregnancy" called a molar pregnancy. it occurs when there is an inappropriate chromosomal combination resulting in the production of none or only some embryonal tissue, with the rest being placental tissue. what it looks like though, is clear grapes, and lots of them, which the woman eventually passes. a long time ago, a woman in the vatican had a molar pregnancy and began passing all these "grapes". everyone was so confused, that they called in the church to help them figure out what to do. so the decision, was that each one of these little grapes was a life, so they baptized every single one of them, which was probably in the hundreds. at the rate we're going, give delay and bush a few months and we'll be back to that point. what is so damn frustrating with this country's politics right now is that there is no compromise. this actually seems to be changing hopefully, but i'm going to wait a bit before i start celebrating. its either you're against or for stem cells, against or for gay marriages. come on, using these discarded embryos from fertilization clinics is a good compromise. has nothing to do with abortions, these are embryos which simply are not going to be used. there's no need to be so black and white about everything, how about some realism. with gay marriages, yeah, i might not be opposed to it but i can understand how people would be. but i really don't see ANYWAY people could be opposed to civil unions. that's a legal statement, has nothing to do with religion. this is one situation where the left should compromise more and stop pushing for gay marriages and push for civil unions first. we can go for gay marriages afterward if its necessary. all these politicians and half the damn country needs a slap in the face and a good shake while screaming "SNAP OUT OF IT" in their face. eesh, done with my rant. |
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